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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://progressivepensacola.com/2009/10/08/4586/comment-page-1/#comment-4762</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better Pcola ......left for Rick&#039;s blog where his negative and condescending comments about taxpaying citizens with longevity in the city or those who question the ballpark on our valuable waterfront will be most welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better Pcola &#8230;&#8230;left for Rick&#8217;s blog where his negative and condescending comments about taxpaying citizens with longevity in the city or those who question the ballpark on our valuable waterfront will be most welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://progressivepensacola.com/2009/10/08/4586/comment-page-1/#comment-4755</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 22:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the big bully Pensacola democracy that many  despise but continue to love and work for the best interests of their city.

The Pensacola kind where folks who have questions and concerns get portrayed in cartoons by Pensacola&#039;s finest depicting them as naysayers and old timers, out of touch and crazy.

It&#039;s the Pensacola kind where folks who might be concerned about the overall city instead of who makes a buck off the city  and  have something to add to the discussion are quickly dismissed and called condescending names as Better Pensacola displays here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the big bully Pensacola democracy that many  despise but continue to love and work for the best interests of their city.</p>
<p>The Pensacola kind where folks who have questions and concerns get portrayed in cartoons by Pensacola&#8217;s finest depicting them as naysayers and old timers, out of touch and crazy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the Pensacola kind where folks who might be concerned about the overall city instead of who makes a buck off the city  and  have something to add to the discussion are quickly dismissed and called condescending names as Better Pensacola displays here.</p>
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		<title>By: Rock</title>
		<link>http://progressivepensacola.com/2009/10/08/4586/comment-page-1/#comment-4754</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Better Pensacola wrote:

&quot;PLUS, the City Council brought in their own “expert” to do a “final report” on the proposed Charter, too. So really, there were two or three “final reports” to council.&quot;

So &quot;A Better Pensacola&quot;

What about a report as in the example above that a simple minded Old Timer can understand??

What part of &quot;Mr. Bonfield told me in writing, “At no time did I ever tell Ms. Spencer a new proposed charter could be substituted for a report.”&quot; do you not understand?

Looks to me as if we Tax Payers are getting a proposed charter shoved down our throat and no report to qualify said charter!

I have to wonder what democracy your thinking of!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Better Pensacola wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;PLUS, the City Council brought in their own “expert” to do a “final report” on the proposed Charter, too. So really, there were two or three “final reports” to council.&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8220;A Better Pensacola&#8221;</p>
<p>What about a report as in the example above that a simple minded Old Timer can understand??</p>
<p>What part of &#8220;Mr. Bonfield told me in writing, “At no time did I ever tell Ms. Spencer a new proposed charter could be substituted for a report.”&#8221; do you not understand?</p>
<p>Looks to me as if we Tax Payers are getting a proposed charter shoved down our throat and no report to qualify said charter!</p>
<p>I have to wonder what democracy your thinking of!</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://progressivepensacola.com/2009/10/08/4586/comment-page-1/#comment-4753</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three whole weeks !

Most of the citizens who aren&#039;t Old Timers as you condescendingly call long time residents and concerned citizens are at work at 4:00 on  Wednesdays.  

Now the citizens are to vote on this in about 30 days? That was deemed adequate time to educate the public or are we just going to rally the cause with another Change message and hope it&#039;s good change?

&quot;That fact that our particular government doesn’t work well with our present elected officials doesn’t mean it needs to be thrown out. Making modifications to fix what’s broken would be the logical first step.&quot;


Instead they proposed a NEW form of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three whole weeks !</p>
<p>Most of the citizens who aren&#8217;t Old Timers as you condescendingly call long time residents and concerned citizens are at work at 4:00 on  Wednesdays.  </p>
<p>Now the citizens are to vote on this in about 30 days? That was deemed adequate time to educate the public or are we just going to rally the cause with another Change message and hope it&#8217;s good change?</p>
<p>&#8220;That fact that our particular government doesn’t work well with our present elected officials doesn’t mean it needs to be thrown out. Making modifications to fix what’s broken would be the logical first step.&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead they proposed a NEW form of government.</p>
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		<title>By: A Better Pensacola</title>
		<link>http://progressivepensacola.com/2009/10/08/4586/comment-page-1/#comment-4752</link>
		<dc:creator>A Better Pensacola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 20:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Looks like the Old Timers are up from their naps and angry about Charter Review.  (Careful guys, don&#039;t want to get that blood pressure up.)

Did any of them EVER attend a Charter Review Commission meeting?  

Give me a break.  The Charter Review Commission, their attorney, and their Chair spent about six hours &quot;reporting&quot; to the Council on the final actions of the CRC.

PLUS, the City Council brought in their own &quot;expert&quot; to do a &quot;final report&quot; on the proposed Charter, too. So really, there were two or three &quot;final reports&quot; to council.

This is just silly sour grapes.  I for one think the new charter is great, I think the CRC did a great job, and based on what I&#039;ve heard and read, they spent about three WEEKS deliberating current form of government.

Besides, are you telling me that the Chairs of other Commissions (Zoning, etc) don&#039;t have their own opinions that influence how they run meetings?  Welcome to democracy, fellas.  Where have you been all this time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Looks like the Old Timers are up from their naps and angry about Charter Review.  (Careful guys, don&#8217;t want to get that blood pressure up.)</p>
<p>Did any of them EVER attend a Charter Review Commission meeting?  </p>
<p>Give me a break.  The Charter Review Commission, their attorney, and their Chair spent about six hours &#8220;reporting&#8221; to the Council on the final actions of the CRC.</p>
<p>PLUS, the City Council brought in their own &#8220;expert&#8221; to do a &#8220;final report&#8221; on the proposed Charter, too. So really, there were two or three &#8220;final reports&#8221; to council.</p>
<p>This is just silly sour grapes.  I for one think the new charter is great, I think the CRC did a great job, and based on what I&#8217;ve heard and read, they spent about three WEEKS deliberating current form of government.</p>
<p>Besides, are you telling me that the Chairs of other Commissions (Zoning, etc) don&#8217;t have their own opinions that influence how they run meetings?  Welcome to democracy, fellas.  Where have you been all this time?</p>
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		<title>By: Rock</title>
		<link>http://progressivepensacola.com/2009/10/08/4586/comment-page-1/#comment-4751</link>
		<dc:creator>Rock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this!!!! I watched the last council meeting on Channel 4. My take from that meeting??   WT(expletive)!!!! I must be as dumb as a box of rocks, I don’t get it. What’s the problem with publishing a Final Report like the one Mr. Lewis mentioned at the meeting? Here is a link to it http://www.scribd.com/doc/19860494/Charter-Committee-Draft-Report. 

I for one have had about enough “Change” as I can handle. I watched as Ms. Spencer stood up there and went into revival mode. Give me a break! 

Then you have the guy in shorts talking about “Failed Process”  ……

What the heck is going on around here??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this!!!! I watched the last council meeting on Channel 4. My take from that meeting??   WT(expletive)!!!! I must be as dumb as a box of rocks, I don’t get it. What’s the problem with publishing a Final Report like the one Mr. Lewis mentioned at the meeting? Here is a link to it <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/19860494/Charter-Committee-Draft-Report" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.scribd.com/doc/19860494/Charter-Committee-Draft-Report?referer=');">http://www.scribd.com/doc/19860494/Charter-Committee-Draft-Report</a>. </p>
<p>I for one have had about enough “Change” as I can handle. I watched as Ms. Spencer stood up there and went into revival mode. Give me a break! </p>
<p>Then you have the guy in shorts talking about “Failed Process”  ……</p>
<p>What the heck is going on around here??</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://progressivepensacola.com/2009/10/08/4586/comment-page-1/#comment-4750</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We don’t know the rationale or justification for any of the CRC’s recommendations because they never wrote their mandated Final Report.&quot;

So the attorney that was directing this ignored the mandate but we should have confidence in the rest of the process?  I don&#039;t.

Spencer is wife of local vocal architect Brian, who is partners with R. Russenberger and  &quot;friends&quot; with S Hall and DeeDee.   Small world, huh?

And these guys are pushing a strong mayor with the players in this town?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We don’t know the rationale or justification for any of the CRC’s recommendations because they never wrote their mandated Final Report.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the attorney that was directing this ignored the mandate but we should have confidence in the rest of the process?  I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Spencer is wife of local vocal architect Brian, who is partners with R. Russenberger and  &#8220;friends&#8221; with S Hall and DeeDee.   Small world, huh?</p>
<p>And these guys are pushing a strong mayor with the players in this town?</p>
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